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I'm very behind with the times, console-wise. I want to get a new system but I'm not sure which to get. I've generally always been a Playstation guy, but I'm open to either system. A few things to consider, I guess:
1. 360 is coming out with the Kinect. This is the largest selling point for me.
2. I tend to play more RPG/Strategy games than FPS/Action games, but I still enjoy a lot of good Action games like Bioshock and MW2.
-PS3 has MGS4, Little Big Planet, and a great RPG library.
-360 has Kinect (soon) Fable 3 (soon) and Fallout 3
Blueray isn't really a big thing for me, and online gaming will be something I will probably look into, in the future, but I'm probably too busy with work and school this year to get into it too much.
So what do you guys think? Any experience with either or both systems to be able to pass on advice? I guess if I don't make up my mind I'll just upgrade my PC like a whore.
The 360 controller is generally considered better overall for FPS's and if all of your friends use xbox live you might want to spring the extra fee for the service.
That said, the PS3 doesn't have a whole heck of a lot going for it over xbox; but it does have free online, a lot of really good downloadable games, and though there are more RPG's a lot of them have been disappointments (eg. final fantasy 13 is terrible.)
MGS4 is good, but it is generally regarded as worse than the previous games so it should only swing your decision if you are a huge MGS fan. Little Big Planet is fun but kind of broken and gets old fast unless you want to spend hours learning the level creator.
I don't really know if Kinect will deliver; you might want to wait for launch before drinking the kool-aid on that one.
You mentioned Bioshock and Fallout, both of which are on both consoles, and both of which have the definitive versions available on Steam; along with most other major releases of this gen. My advice would be to just get a decent graphics card and game on your PC - you get the best of both worlds and much more customization (eg. I downloaded Braid on Steam and played through it with an xbox controller.) Even japanese companies like Capcom are releasing most of their games to the PC nowadays. Plus, games tend to get marked down and/or go on sale faster and more frequently on Steam. The Call of Duty's and Battlefields are also way nicer looking on PC.
If you are really heart-set on consoles though, why not consider a Wii? As far as console exclusive games go, the really excellent games have mostly been wii games (the mario galaxy games are exponentially better than Little Big Planet) and if you don't care about online then Wii's crappy network and friend codes won't bother you much.
Wow, awesome reply Dylan. You're right in that it might be wiser for me to drop 4-5 hundred on a new card and maybe some more ram/better processor to game on, versus getting a console. And no, I'm not that into Halo.
I guess what I should ultimately do is dig into some game review sites and make a list of games I wanna play, and do a tally for PC/360/PS3, and try to rationalize further from that point. A Wii is also an excellent point. I used to have one, but it got lost a few years ago in the roommate shuffle. I'm sure I could find a used one for cheap on Craigslist. Thanks for the reply, it was very helpful.
@Jenny: This is the most compelling reason I have yet to hear for getting a 360!
ps3 has a bluray player and costs the same as a stand alone bluray player.
i myself cant use an xbox controller. it feels like its made for alien hands. Obviously since ive had nothing but sony consoles since 1996 anything else is going to feel weird, but just sayin, theres nothing wrong with the ps3 controller and like anything else its going to take getting used to.
pc games are more prone to being hacked than console games although recent lessons show that when a console game is hacked it takes a shitload longer to get a patch for it where as a pc game will probly be fixed within hours. it took 2 weeks to get a ps3 fix for the god hack on COD4.
ps3s die after about 2 years and sony pretends that each case is unique and has no interest in addressing that they have a real quality problem. From what i understand, 360s are just as likely to break but microsoft has been better about taking responsibility when it happens.
i guess i have no advice, just some thoughts. i love the ps3 and thats what id buy, but i feel confident its just the devil I know.
Thanks guys. Yeah, I prefer sony controllers too, since I've had all Sony systems growing up. But it does seem like upgrading my PC is the way to go. I guess if I really want something that can play blueray, or maybe check out the Kinect when it's out, I can look into consoles at that time.
Adam: Thanks guys. Yeah, I prefer sony controllers too, since I've had all Sony systems growing up. But it does seem like upgrading my PC is the way to go. I guess if I really want something that can play blueray, or maybe check out the Kinect when it's out, I can look into consoles at that time.
the tihng about gaming pcs is that you upgrade them to play a game and then another game comes out with more requirements so you have to upgrade again. the industries are aligned in this purpose. console gamers know that the games have to be made to fit the hardware thats already bought and paid for with reasonable upgrades occuring only every 4 years or so.
obviously the drawback is that you know that pcs will always be immediately capable of more cutting edge software, but with a console at least you know there is going to be a steady catalog of high end games coming to your already capable machine.
the tihng about gaming pcs is that you upgrade them to play a game and then another game comes out with more requirements so you have to upgrade again. the industries are aligned in this purpose. console gamers know that the games have to be made to fit the hardware thats already bought and paid for with reasonable upgrades occuring only every 4 years or so.
obviously the drawback is that you know that pcs will always be immediately capable of more cutting edge software, but with a console at least you know there is going to be a steady catalog of high end games coming to your already capable machine.
Damn you, rational counter-point. Damn you straight to hell.
the tihng about gaming pcs is that you upgrade them to play a game and then another game comes out with more requirements so you have to upgrade again. the industries are aligned in this purpose. console gamers know that the games have to be made to fit the hardware thats already bought and paid for with reasonable upgrades occuring only every 4 years or so.
obviously the drawback is that you know that pcs will always be immediately capable of more cutting edge software, but with a console at least you know there is going to be a steady catalog of high end games coming to your already capable machine.
I agree that upgrading becomes an expensive pain but if you are smart about it you can usually get away spending minimal dollars for a full gen of games.
For example, when I built my pc in 2007 my goal was to be able to smoothly run company of heroes with DX10 and the Orange Box at near full settings. 3 years later I'm still having no trouble with new games (except for Crytek developed stuff) and the VPU I'm using is currently less than 100 bucks.
I think the bigger downside to pc gaming is that you tend to spend a bit of time tweaking your settings when you install a new game; but I personally prefer this option over having to play a gimped port that was optimized for another console (eg. bayonetta on ps3 has a crappy framerate compared to the xbox; while burnout paradise is better on ps3) although this can also be the case with console-to-pc ports, (GTA4 apparently runs like donkey butt on windows.)
The best way to decide is to pick your favourite developers and figure out what they tend to support. Personally I like Valve, Relic, and Blizzard so I know I'm pretty safe for pc support for the next decade at least.
I have built 3 PCs over the last 11 years, with maybe $200 in total upgrades to each (after I built them initially), which have enabled me to play every game that's released, if I wished. My current one plays Starcraft 2 and Battlefield on full graphics, running music in the background, while downloading some stuff, all at the same time, and it cost me $650 to build about two-three years ago. It also does computer-y stuff when it comes time for that. It also plays 1080p without a single hiccup and HD audio as well. So, it comes in handy for running it as a home media server as well.
However, if you are only using your PC for gaming, and not say... intensive data crunching, graphic designing, etc., then there is no point for you to maintain a PC.
By the way, you can also just get a nice laptop with a monitor, keyboard and mouse hook-up. The nicer laptops play the newest games just fine.
I use a desktop 95% for gaming. I have a mac laptop that I use for work, school, and putzing around online while sitting in front of the computer.
I want to upgrade my computer, and I'd prefer to keep it within the $700-$800 range. The last time I upgraded, maybe 6 years ago (cue laughtrack) I got an AMD machine from ibuypower. I was, and have been, very content with my purchase from there, and have been considering using them again. Over the years I made a few small upgrades (RAM, GPU) but I'm by no means a computer-building adept.
So I guess I have two options...buy a new rig from ibuypower, or attempt to build/meta upgrade my current machine. Any advice?
My once concern with my current machine is that that case is pretty small. I mean, I put a new fan in it, and I have to run it without the cover on the case because it's so massive. The computer I currently have still has 2 gigs of RAM I could salvage, but not really much else (the GPU sucks balls at this point).
So if anyone here is good at this stuff and is bored over the next few days, would you care to help me spec some prices and figure out how I can get a running desktop that would play the newest releases scheduled for 2010-2011 at highest res, or as close as I could come to that while staying close to my price range?
Build a new rig. Obviously, I suggest NewEgg.com and TigerDirect.com. Get a motherboard that is compatible with the i7 chips from Intel. Get 6 or 8gb of memory. As for the specifics of which brands/models to get, use reviews - CNet is usually pretty good for that.
kyle:
Build a new rig. Obviously, I suggest NewEgg.com and TigerDirect.com. Get a motherboard that is compatible with the i7 chips from Intel. Get 6 or 8gb of memory. As for the specifics of which brands/models to get, use reviews - CNet is usually pretty good for that.
i7 chips? Okay, would you suggest six-core, or is quad enough? Also, I'm not always so good at determining which GPU is the best bang for its price range, and if it is compatible with certain motherboards/processors.
I leave you here to go forth and research via Goole, NewEgg, CNet and the likes. Take the time to research, it will lead to a well priced, powerful PC.
kyle:
I leave you here to go forth and research via Goole, NewEgg, CNet and the likes. Take the time to research, it will lead to a well priced, powerful PC.
Ahh!....alrightttttt. Damn you, forcing me to cease my laziness in favor of learning for myself.
Depending on where you live, you can often walk into a computer store with a cpu and gpu in mind and ask them to 'fill in the blanks' and build you the best machine within a certain price range. That's how I built my last box; saved me the hassle of figuring out memory/motherboard compatibilities as well as physically putting the thing together. If the place is half decent they usually won't charge you that much to have them build it in-store.
Dylan:
Depending on where you live, you can often walk into a computer store with a cpu and gpu in mind and ask them to 'fill in the blanks' and build you the best machine within a certain price range. That's how I built my last box; saved me the hassle of figuring out memory/motherboard compatibilities as well as physically putting the thing together. If the place is half decent they usually won't charge you that much to have them build it in-store.
Awesome advice, I'll have to research decent computer stores around the area.
